How does a Supertrapp muffler sound on a Virago 250? 8 to 14 discs are optimal for XV250 – UPDATED 9/14/11


4" OD Supertrapp muffler on Virago 250. The optimal number of 4 inch Supertrapp discs for a Virago 250 is probably somewhere between 8 and 14 discs.

I still have not driven it enough, but basically it sounds smoother than my old system.  It sounds smooth and powerful but I think I still like the sound of my first exhaust better.  My first exhaust had more of a v-twin sound, the Supertrapp has a little more of a smooth sportbike sound.  I think the Supertrapp sounds different to me, too, because the sound does not come out the back of the muffler – it comes out at a 90 degree angle – which should make it seem louder to the rider.  So far it seems like the torque is improved a little.  Mine came with 8 discs – once I get used to how it performs with the 8 discs, I will remove four of the discs which should result in more torque and less horsepower.   To be continued …….

Sound quality (10 is best)

9 of 10  –     1) Stock XV250 exhaust, gutted (has a resonance chamber and two mufflers)

5 of 10  –     2) “The cheap Virago 250 exhaust mod” with one original muffler, 4 inch aftermarket baffle

7 of 10  –     3) “The cheap Virago 250 exhaust mod” with one original muffler, 6 inch, more restrictive aftermarket baffle

8.5 of 10  –   4) “The cheap Virago 250 exhaust mod” with one Supertrapp muffler with 8 discs (w/o exh shield)

9+ of 10  –   5) “The cheap Virago 250 exhaust mod” with one Supertrapp muffler with 4 discs (w/o exh shield)

update 9/14/11   —   With 4 discs and without the exhaust shield, the sound is softer and more powerful and it reminds me of a Moto Guzzi.  So far, I cannot feel more torque with 4 discs.       ——-   So what’s the problem ? —————   The problem is, people that have done dyno tests got the best results with more discs (as much as 28 discs).  ———————-   So I might might go back to 8  discs, but I will use the 120 degree exhaust shield this time to reduce the noise that the rider hears.  

9+ of 10    –   6) “The cheap Virago 250 exhaust mod” with one Supertrapp muffler with 8 discs and with exhaust shield

update 10/08/11   —   I added lock washers that are about 1.3 mm thick.  This adds open spacing equal to about 2 discs – so now I have the effect of 10 discs.

9+ of 10    –   7) “The cheap Virago 250 exhaust mod” with one Supertrapp muffler with effectively 10 discs and with exhaust shield. (8 discs + 1.3 mm thick lock washers)

If the exhaust shield is not installed: ……     1)  Rider will hear muffler more –  I found it was fine with 4 discs and too much with over 4 discs.  ……..   2)  It makes it harder to identify exhaust leaks – with no diffuser you can feel the exhaust from under the engine on the left side of the bike.  ……..   3)  More heat is given off to parts of the bike (such as saddlebags) that are close to the exhaust outlet. 

Per the 1 disc per 27cc rule (for 4 inch discs):    For 4 inch discs – 1 disc per 26.7cc – so for 250cc you need 9 + 2 = 11 discs.  (The first and last disc in a stack have almost no flow so you need to add two.)  So 11 discs is “best” for 250cc engines in general.  The optimal number of 4 inch Supertrapp discs for a Virago 250 is probably somewhere between 8 and 14 discs.  8 discs should give you more torque; 14 discs should give you more horsepower.       -Les S.

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2 Responses to How does a Supertrapp muffler sound on a Virago 250? 8 to 14 discs are optimal for XV250 – UPDATED 9/14/11

  1. Don Locke says:

    Great site with all kinds of cool useful ideas and tidbits! I read you had managed to raise the seat on your 250 by two inches, and have the same need as well. Are there specific details you can share about the best way to do that? Thanks! -Don- Lilburn, GA

    • lstrick115 says:

      Hi Don,
      I used aluminum to make thin brackets for the rear of the seat. Bolt hole spacing I made about 2 inches. You should use two or four strong bolts to hold the two brackets, because the front is not bolted down. You need to drill the frame for these bolts; these holes will be covered up by the brackets. For the front, use two “L” brackets to make a “U” bracket and use the tank mounting bolt to hold it. The tank mount is not changed, you just remove the bolt temporarily to bolt the U bracket down. Use a long bolt to close off the top of the U. Then to install the seat you slide the front tab into the U bracket (add rubber spacers to the front so it is not loose) and fasten the rear bolts. Make sure the front of the seat is raised the same amount that the rear is raised. If you look at the pictures (in my other posts also) you can see what I did.
      Hope this helps, and thanks for asking. Let me know how it goes. -Les S.

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